Thank you very much Mr Quiffster, I have had a look on the Expo website and it looks as though the big surprise launch is just an amended TS250 maybe with a 5litre lump or maybe not, anyway the show runs from 2 to 7 June so we can go along during the week and get all the pic's then. So we will be at Tatton park but as I am having trouble sourcing a car I'm not sure if I will be in a Marcos by then but I hope so, we'll see. I'm sure I can sort out something amongst us down here.